Social retardation and Tinder

Tinder is bad for men, here is why, it can also be a shitter for women too.

A girl I met recently told me about 2 of the “dates” she had been on recently both organised via the Tinder app.

Tinder Date 1

The date is in a bar the chode is a policeman, when she arrives they go to sit down and everything is awkward. The girl makes all of the chat, policechode can’t even look her in the eye, at no point does he make eye contact or make her feel comfortable. She does all the work in the conversation, (I asked her at this point why she hadn’t gotten up to leave?), she said she was giving him the “benefit of the doubt”. She feels awkward and unattracted to him.

The guy just isn’t cool and isn’t Alpha, he then asks her to come outside with him whilst he has a smoke, where he closes in on her, is not calibrated and is talking to her a couple of inches from her face. He is still smoking, he hasn’t escalated in any way there are no IOIs or “spark” to use her words.

They go back inside he is back to no eye contact, the girl decides she has finally had enough  and wants to leave. At this point in an act of desperation policechode tries to hold her hand. She tells him it’s too soon, despite having admitted to me she would have and has fucked guys on first dates.

She brushes him off, he doesn’t have a car there, he asks her for a lift to the train station. She concedes, she gives him a lift to the station, more final last ditch attempts to chat up the girl, with a final attempt at a kiss, which girl directs to her cheek.


Tinder Date 2

The girl tells me she went on a date with another guy who she describes as good looking, but that he was too nervous when communicating with her. I tell her that we’ve (men) have all been there, again she said she’d given him the benefit of the doubt but probably wouldn’t go on a second date with him.

I told her to tell him the honest reason for her not wanting the second date so he could work on it.  She said she’d never do that and would probably just not reply to any of his messages as it was “easier that way”.


This is why daygame for or any direct social interaction for the initial meet is good for girls as well as guys. If the girl had met either of these guys directly via a face-to-face (cock-to-pussy) interaction she could have immediately screened them, no need for awkward dates and no need to say that “hand holding” is a step too far on a first date. She can just tell him she’s not interested and leave the interaction without the waste of an evening for him or for her.

Direct social interaction is therefore win-win, it’s a great way to avoid the social retardation caused by apps like Tinder.



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